09 Aug 2018
Please confirm the attendance of your representatives for the above meeting.
Our earlier mail is reproduced for your consideration.
Further to our mails on the subject.
We request the President or his authorised representative of the pan India based ESM Associations to attend the meeting, scheduled to be held on 19 August 2018, at the venue
143, Second Cross, Second Avenue, Vayupuri, Secunderabad.
State level Registered ESM organisations, which have a membership base of 2000 or more, must be represented by their Presidents or their General Secretary.
It will be of great help for us to have the arrival /departure details of the representatives attending the meet by 09 August 2018.
The details of accommodation will be intimated to all concerned as soon as we have confirmation of arrival/ departure particulars. The contact number of Cmde Sudheer Parakala is 9849057767 and Col (Dr)GB Sethi, General Secretary, TSEWA is 9440859877 , Col MK Veeramani-9948099416, 9494411821.
The Presidents of all Major ESM Organisations or their authorised representatives, which are apolitical and willing to Form the Interim Confederation may kindly come prepared to discuss and finalise the paper.
TSEWA has kindly consented to host the meeting at their office in Hyderabad on 19 Aug 2018 and bear all the expenditure connected with local transportation, Accommodation and meals. The Members participating may kindly make their own travel arrangements from their place of origin to Hyderabad and back. They may arrive Hyderabad by PM 18 Aug and depart Hyderabad AM 20 Aug 2018. The rough outline Agenda for the Meeting on 19 Aug 2018 is as below:
1. 0900-0930 hrs – Presidents of Participating ESM Organisations assemble at 143, Vayupuri, Hyderabad. Introduction and registration.
2. 0930 – 0935 hrs – Welcome Address by Col (Dr) GB Sethi, General Secretary, TSEWA
3. 0935 – 1000 hrs – Welcome and Background of Confederation Concept by Col TN Raman, Convener
4. 1000 – 1045 hrs – PPT Presentation of Draft Approach Paper by Cmde Sudheer Parakala, VP, TSEWA
5. 1045 – 1300 hrs – Open House discussion of Draft Approach Paper and finalisation of approach paper
6. 1300 – 1400 hrs – Lunch hosted by TSEWA
7.. 1400 – 1500 hrs.- Formation of Interim Confederation and signing of Resolution/MOU
8. 1500 – 1530 hrs – Election of Interim National Confederation President by Consensus or by Ballot
9. 1530 – 1600 hrs – Election of Interim National Vice President by Consensus or by Ballot
10. 1600 – 1630 hrs – Selection of One /Two Nominated Members as ombudsman.
11. 1930 hrs – Dinner hosted by TSEWA
Since the Interim Confederation is proposed to be formed and Elections to the Confederation will take place on 19 Aug 2018, All participating Major ESM Organisations may please be represented preferably by their Presidents or General Secretaries. Kindly confirm your participation and intimate travel details to Col (Dr) GB Sethi, General Secretary of TSEWA before 09 Aug 2018 to make administrative arrangements.
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with Best wishes & Regards,
Col (Retd) TN Raman
E5/230, AWHO Parameswaran Vihar,
67, Arcot Road, Saligramam,
Mob: 0- 9840033326
1. With encouragement from many Veterans and ESM Organisations,a Meeting of the proposed Confederation of ESM Organisations will be held on 19 August 18, at Hyderabad. I had earlier circulated an Approach paper on the subject. The salient aspects are given below, for recapitulation.
2. Let us be clear that the formation of such a Confederation is not intended to create a leader or another ESM Organisation to replace the existing ones. All the existing ESM Associations will continue to function with their own identities and memorandums, without any interference to their internal functioning. The intention is only to bring all of them under one umbrella, which will be formed by the existing ESM Associations themselves, voluntarily with the approval of the members of their own Associations.
3. Even the Memorandum of Understanding and the Common Minimum Programme for the proposed Confederation will be prepared and passed by the Member Associations themselves. It is aimed at collective leadership and not individual or coterie centric.
4. It is not possible to form a new ESM Organisation and expect all the ESM Associations from all the States and Center to join, for the sake of showcasing our unity. Few of the ESM Associations, are headed by Officers and others by JCOs and NCOs. No one would like to give away his eminence and importance of being called Chairman, President or General Secretary of such Associations, by merging with a larger outfit and lose his own importance and identity, on matters concerning the ESM.
5. Therefore, the next best option would be the Confederation of ESM Associations, where all the ESM Associations can become members with equal rights, irrespective of their own individual size of membership base or financial backing or political affiliations. This Confederation will be Apolitical, issue based and not organisation centric, since it will not have any ESM as its members, but only the ESM Associations as members.The appointment of President, Secretary and other Office Bearers of this Confederation will be elected by the Member Associations themselves, for a period of two years. The President and Secretary of all member Associations will be the members of the Managing Committee. The fundamental requirement, of course, will be that the ESM Associations must be registered entities with current registration status, with their own bye-laws.
6. The policy decisions will be taken by two thirds of the Members of the Managing Committee, which shall be binding on all the member Associations. It will also have a delegation of ESM Representatives to deal with the Govt or other functionaries duly nominated by the Managing Committee. The members of such delegations will be selected on subject and need basis. This will avoid too many ESM Associations writing to the concerned authorities on the same issue, in different voices, without proper internal discussion or debate.
7. Above all, the demands and opinion of such a Confederation of ESM Associations, exhibiting unity, will be taken seriously by the Govt.
8. This issue was discussed as an Agenda point on 08 July 18, during the ESM meeting held in Chennai. The gist is given below:-
Confederation of ESM Organisations.
a. The members welcomed the efforts being made by Col T N Raman to foster unity among ESM Associations, and to bring them under one common umbrella. The advantages of projecting ESM needs and problems along with positive suggestions by a Confederation backed by strength; as against sending multiple representations from individual associations ( as at present ) were highlighted by many participants. The discussions centered broadly on forming the confederation at Regional / State / All- India level.
b. There are some major associations that have pan – India presence – like IESL, IESM, Air Force / Navy associations, TSEWA, War Wounded Foundation, War Widows Association, War Disabled, NExCC, AIEWA, Military Veterans, AFVOA, War Decorated and a few more. Their regional chapters cannot become part of Regional or State level confederations. Their local branches cannot independently take decisions in the Confederation. Every local decision, in their cases, will require guide lines / approval from the central HQ, which may or may not approve local commitments.
c. However, there are many other local ESM associations / organisations at the districts and State level, which serve the community of ESM at State level. They can join the Confederation, with more certainty and much less hurdles.
d. A suggestion came up that it will be better to call the umbrella organisation as a ‘ Federation ‘ than as a ‘ Confederation ‘ This will reduce the complications involved in evolving of Joint Confederation of ESM bodies. Col TN Raman gave out his view that, keeping the future in mind, the ESM Associations of State and Districts level may be grouping themselves as State Federations. Such Federations of States may join the Confederation at the Center, since they are not going to lose their identities. Therefore, Confederation of ESM Associations will comprise independent ESM Associations, Federations of various States and the already existing pan India ESM Organisations.
e. The general consensus of opinion is that Col Raman may liaise with and prepare the list of ESM Associations, who are inclined to be a part of the Confederation ; then have rounds of exploratory dialogue with them individually and collectively. This needs patience and time.
f. As Col Raman has rightly pointed out, the Confederation, to start with must aim at all India level and percolate down to States level. If the idea is to start from State level and move upward to National level, then it will be self defeating, since the main strength of the Confederation will be the ESM Organisations which are already established on all India basis. A few of such organisations are quoted in sub para (a) above. Lt Gen Vijay Oberoi and his War Wounded Foundation, AIEWA, RDOA, War Widows Association, Maj Gen Satbir Singh- IESM and a few more organisations have expressed their support in 2014 itself. Now, TSEWA has evinced keen interest in the proposal.
g. The members reiterated that the above suggestions are meant to encourage and not to discourage the formation of the Confederation at All India level. They have urged Col Raman to progress the issue further.
9. The following suggestions from Cmde Sudheer Parikala are positive and encouraging:-
a. Interim Organisation. The Confederation as envisaged at the State Level and the National Level may take two to four years to come into being. Since RM has in principle agreed to have quarterly meetings of ESM Organisations Chaired by RRM, it is essential that an Interim Confederation is brought into force and the first such meeting held before the moral code of conduct for the next General Elections comes into force.
b. All the major existing ESM organizations must be invited to come together to form the Confederation. If majority of ESM Organisations can come together, it would be an excellent step forward to form the Confederation and have a powerful voice to redress major grievances and welfare activities of the ESM community. TSEWA has consented to host such a meeting at Hyderabad.
c. During the meeting on 19 August 18, it is also proposed to elect the Interim National Confederation President (NCP) and also an Interim National Confederation Vice President, who could also be called as the Confederation Ombudsman.
d. The Interim NCP when elected will establish communication with the MOD and propose the dates for the first meeting of the Confederation to be Chaired by the RRM.
10. The intention of the proposal is not to forge any mergers but to create an Apex Organisation for the purposes of conveying unified voice to the MOD at the National Level and the State Governments at the State Level for Redressal of Grievances and institution of various welfare measures for the benefit of the ESM Community and the Widows. The Confederation will not exercise supremacy over any individual ESM Organisation nor will there be any Identity loss. It is the considered opinion that the confederation when formed, will command due respect at all levels of Governance.
11. Please also visit the following web site and FB page, which Air Warrior S Varadarajan had created in 2015, which has now been reactivated: –
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12. I wish to clarify that my role in the entire process of formation of the confederation, is only that of a facilitator. Sine the membership is restricted only to the bonafide ESM Associations, I am not even eligible to contest for any of the posts, since I am not heading any ESM Organisation. But, I am confident that my effort will not go waste this time. I request all the heads of the ESM organisations to kindly attend the meeting on 19 August 18, at Hyderabad, the details of which will be sent shortly.
Jai Hind !
Col (Retd) TN Raman
E5/230, AWHO Parameswaran Vihar,
67, Arcot Road, Saligramam,
Mob: 0- 9840033326
1. I was watching from the wings, most of the email exchanges, from various ESM Associations and ESM dignitaries.
2. Let us examine the modus operandi of Central Govt Employees. There are more than a thousand Federations and Associations of employees, which come under one umbrella called the Confederation of Central Govt Employees, which they surmise as an ” Organisation for unifying the entirety of Central Govt Employees Associations on a single platform of struggle and advance”. This Confederation includes Federations and Associations of the Railways, Port Trust, Postal Services, Nationalised Banks, PSUs, and many more important Govt entities, which are independent bodies by themselves, which on their own merit are capable of causing great disruption to the economy of the Nation as well as smooth functioning of the Govt. Despite this advantage, they believe in united approach, while tackling the common problems faced by them. During the first week of this month, May 2015, the call for Nation wide strike was given by their ‘Confederation’ to resolve all the major issues affecting the Central Govt Employees as a whole. We have seen the report in all news media. In addition, their Confederation has also given notice to the Govt that there will be a prolonged strike in Nov 2015, if their demands are not met. This system precludes the efforts by the Govt to create rift amongst their Associations.
3. Here we Veterans are still hesitating to project an united front to carry forward our demands, under a single umbrella of a Confederation, despite the fact that we Veterans enjoy only a reflected glory, since it has been our covenant and which will always be the one, to never involve our serving fraternity with our struggle. Because, we care for our Nation, always and every time.
4, The demand of OROP has become a litmus test for the Veterans’ cause. It has graduated to become an emotional issue, rather than remaining a pure financial benefit. The BJP lured the ESM community with such a promise in 2014, as an assurance of sympathetic consideration of all problems connected with the ESM community.
5. Some knowledgeable Veterans may question as to the relevance of Confederation of Central Govt employees comprising serving employees, with the struggle of we Veterans of Armed Forces. Therefore, let us compare our performance with that of Civil Pensioners Confederation.
6. Bharat Pensioners Samaj (BPS) is a conglomerate of around 650 Pensioners Associations of different
disciplines & departments including All India Services, Central Govt Employees, Railways, Defence Civilian Employees, EPS95 etc. In addition, BPS has a strong alliance with sister organizations like AISCCON, AIFPA Chennai & NFRP Palghat. The combined strength through its affiliates/associates & allies goes beyond 10 lakh . It is an All India Federation of Pensioners’ Associations of all Central Govt; State govt ; PSUs, EPS &NPS pensioners’. It is a, non-profitable, non-political & nonreligious organization. Bharat Pensioners Samaj (BPS) is aided by the GOI M/O Personnel, PG & Pensions-Department of Pensions &Pensioners Welfare. It is also a member advisory committee for web based Pensioners’ Portal of GOI M/O Personnel, PG & Pensions.
7. Now, let us compare our demands and struggle for justice either through agitations, negotiations, pleadings, personal letters and in some remote cases through Courts of Justice ! The aim, so far has been splintered efforts at meeting the Union Ministers in piecemeal by various ESM Associations and ESM dignitaries, then proclaiming Pyrrhic victories. Patient hearing of our demands by the RM itself has been touted as success of our mission. The RM had played his part well, by meeting all the delegations of ESM Associations separately, at different timings, even on the same day, and in addition inviting prominent Veterans for private consultations. Net result, he found anomalies thrown in by our own Veteran leaders. One classic example is given below:-
Extract from the website of NExCC is appended below. The same can also be accessed at the following link:
S K Jain
ONE RANK ONE PENSION
ONE RANK ONE PENSION National Ex-servicemen Co-Ordination Committee met Defense Minister Mr. Manohar Pareeker at his office on 22nd April 2015 at 1800 hrs to 1900 hrs for the further discussion on issuing OROP implementation orders. The discussions are necessitated due to the anxiety of Ex-servicemen community, that the implementation orders are not likely to be issued, as promised by the Defense Minister in the discussion held on 18th March 2015. During the discussions the Minister informed the delegate that all the modalities and formalities were completed for issuing the orders as promised on 18th March 2015, but unfortunately a delegation of officers led by Major General Satbir Singh met RM and had discussion over the Supreme Court Orders on the subject. This discussion necessitated further clarification on the matter, and also required the approval of the Parliament once again. However, the Minister was very considerate towards PBOR and assured that he will be able to obtain the approval of the parliament during the current Parliament session. The 10 member delegation of Co-Ordination committee led by Chairman Mr. Tanewar Sen, Vice Chairman Mr. VS John and Secretary General Mr. VN Mishra, also discussed other problems like ECHS, Security Contract System and representation in various committees, during the hour long discussion. NeXCC delegates met Mr. Rabindra Kumar Jena, MP. 1. Lok Sabha member of standing committee on industry. 2. Consultative committee on communication and IT and discussed about the exploitation of ex-servicemen in the security contract and security guards. (QUOTE ENDS)
8. The example given above should open our eyes to the tricks being played by the concerned authorities. The RM could not have made such an excuse, palming off the responsibility of the delay to another ESM organisation, had there been a confederation of ESM Associations, on the lines of Bharath Pensioners Samaj (BPS). Then he could have dealt only with the members of the Confederation, an united body of Veterans, representing majority of the ESM community, through their own Associations.
9. The Confederation we are talking about is not a merger of existing ESM Associations into a single body. It will be a voluntary grouping of the existing ESM Associations and Federations, with their own individual identities, into a Confederation set up, akin to BPS. After all, we have only three major branches in our Veterans community, ie, Army, Navy and Air Force. Though these Veterans may be members of various ESM Associations, some at District, State or National level, forming a Confederation by their Associations, for the purpose of ” Organisation for unifying the entirety of ESM Associations on a single platform of struggle and advance”, cannot be beyond our reach. In many mails, most of the leaders of the ESM Associations do agree with this concept. But are simply waiting for some Associations to take the lead.
10. At the cost of repetition, let us revisit the proposal. Please also visit our web site given below:-
Please check http://www.veteransconfed.org
Col TN Raman (Retd)
(to be continued in part-2)
- This Confederation will be a voluntary formation of the Registered Veteran Associations, from any part of our country.
- This Confederation will be issue based and not organisation based. All the Associations forming part of this Confederation, will have equal rights and responsibilities, irrespective of the strength of their own members and financial state.
- This Confederation will not have any individuals as members. Only the Registered Veteran Associations will become Members.
- All the members Associations will be represented by their Presidents and Secretaries in the meetings, ie, two per Association.
- Only issues affecting the Veterans as a community will be taken up by this Confederation, either for negotiation with the Govt, or, if required by legal intervention, where applicable.
- The decision taken by the Confederation will be binding on all the Veteran organisations. Such decisions must be carried by two third majority of the members of the Confederation.
- All policy letters, letters to the Govt and teams to represent our demands will be formulated by the Confederation, thus eliminating the scope of divisive views being expressed by various Veterans’ Associations, causing confusion and delay.
- This proposed Confederation will be an independent body, not functioning under the aegis of any other Veterans’ Association. It is also not being promoted by any individual Veteran Organisation, but by a few Veterans, who are unbiased and neutral, though some of them may be members of some Veteran Association or other. After the formation of the Confederation, such facilitators will have no role in influencing any decision of the Confederation. Only the members will take the decision.